Robesonia Spring April 15th

[crazyfish]

Looks like the date is set. One of the most popular and longest trial events. More information to follow. Full gallery of pictures available and plenty of stories! Work days will be posted soon.

[Frank84]

this gives me a date to have the rangie on the road by!

[flippedrover]

dang it I'm never going to make Robesonia!!! I finaly have more free weekend now that I quit my job and I still can't make it!

[jason]

this gives me a date to have the rangie on the road by!

Did you set up a count-down clock?

[KevinNY]

I'm really looking forward to this one, the past pics look like great fun.

[galen211]

I'm really looking forward to this one, the past pics look like great fun.

Good to hear, I want to see that truck of yours up close!

[mlp141]

As closely as you saw that tree at the last Robesonia? (HAHA;) )

[sven]

Good to hear, I want to see that truck of yours up close!

Yeah ditto on that. Maybe we can discuss a possible ROVERS thing up at my place in NY.

[galen211]

As closely as you saw that tree at the last Robesonia? (HAHA;) )

I'm sorry I must have missed your truck on the course that day. Did you even compete?

[cboy]

I'm with you, Frank. I need to get the 88" going by then also.

[pushngo]

Yea atleast I will have a better set of wheels this time.

[mlp141]

I'm sorry I must have missed your truck on the course that day. Did you even compete?

Someone needs to make some decent art for the newsletter -- Lord knows the editor has no clue.

[crazyfish]

-- Lord knows the editor has no clue.

That's why we "voted" him editor :)

[galen211]

lol, I remember how I started doing the newsletter. My good buddy said, "hey, let's do the newsletter TOGETHER since no one is really doing it." The rest as they say is history. It's OK though I got a kick a$$ printer out of the deal.


Coincidentally, want to write something for SCC? Jason gave me an article on Robesonia so I need something for SCC and Winter Romp.

[KevinNY]

Good to hear, I want to see that truck of yours up close!

I'll be sporting my new bling beadlocks by then:D

[Peter]

I'll be sporting my new bling beadlocks by then:D

Did you just buy these?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/LAND-ROVER-ALLIED-ROCKATHON-BEAD-LOCK-WHEELS-15X10_W0QQitemZ190082888594QQihZ009QQcategoryZ4395 5QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[KevinNY]

Nope, 15x7 Allieds from a wheeling friend who's 90 got rear ended and needs some cash.

[Gus Veness]

How do I get on the list for this event?

[galen211]

No list for this one, just show up on event day.

[jason]

No list for this one, just show up on event day.

No list, but there is limited space. Download the event sign-up sheet at www.roversclub.org and mail it to Lyle. We've never had to turn anyone away yet, but as the event becomes more popular, we're looking at putting a limit on entries. Quite a traffic jam at times.

[derekdilks]

I CAN'T WAIT FOR THIS EVENT!!!! This will be my 3rd, but I had to leave early the first two. This time I'm there till the end, as long as she will let me stay anyway..... Now I have to decide which vehicle to compete with, the freshly modified RRC or the DII that's been there done that. Hmmmmm :rolleyes: (not that it's going to help my score at all) :(

[KevinNY]

Where is this event sign up sheet?

[sven]

Now I have to decide which vehicle to compete with, the freshly modified RRC or the DII that's been there done that.(

Take your LWB, Im usually the only one there! We can race for pinks:p

[Gus Veness]

Where abouts is the sign up sheet?

[derekdilks]

Take your LWB, Im usually the only one there! We can race for pinks:p

hmmmmm :rolleyes:

[Frank84]

Now that my broken truck is in the driveway, perhaps me, Jason, and Eric should have a race to see who get's their truck on the road first? This would have to be before Robesonia of course.

[rmuller]

Now that my broken truck is in the driveway, perhaps me, Jason, and Eric should have a race to see who get's their truck on the road first? This would have to be before Robesonia of course.

I think Eric may win... we got the Series IIa on the road today! New parabolics, tires & rims.

[Peter]

Where abouts is the sign up sheet?

http://www.roversclub.org/docs/RobesoniaTrial.doc

[KevinNY]

Should we submit payment with the form and if so whom should the check be made out to?

[sven]

"Checks made payable to R.O.V.E.R.S." according to the .doc

I just show up and pay.

[Frank84]

I think Eric may win... we got the Series IIa on the road today! New parabolics, tires & rims.

Congrats! I guess this was over before it started then.

[Tdi Guy]

Im in too. This will be my first..;)

[rmuller]

Congrats! I guess this was over before it started then.

Still needs to get the D2 back on the road (well, with two differentials).

[Gus Veness]

Does the vehicle need to have current state registration and insurance? Am thinking of trailering mine if not needed.

[KevinNY]

What class does a hybrid fall in?

http://www.pbase.com/kevinny/image/74905276/medium.jpg

[cboy]

Congrats! I guess this was over before it started then.

Nah, I still wouldn't deem the 88" road worthy. I certainly wouldn't drive it to Robesonia as is. Yesterday was more of a test run ;)

The race is still on:D


Still needs to get the D2 back on the road (well, with two differentials).

yeah, that too!

[Frank84]

The race is still on:D






Alright, I better get moving then.

[Tdi Guy]

Kevin, those are some set of meats you got on there now...

[KevinNY]

I was running 34x10.5-16 LTBs on LR alloys, these are 34x10.5-15 LTBs on allied 15x7 Rockathons. Same size tread and height but the casing is a touch wider, more sidewall makes them appear huge though.

[crazyfish]

What class does a hybrid fall in?


The classes are based on wheelbase.


There is no official sign up sheet, but to be safe download the form, add a check and send to Lyle. Otherwise show up smiling.

No bitching allowed.

[crazyfish]

Does the vehicle need to have current state registration and insurance? Am thinking of trailering mine if not needed.

Well, no one has ever tried before. Be brave, be the first! It's more about safety than paper work in MY opinion but someone more in the know should give a proper answer.

[derekdilks]

still can't wait!! :D :D Trevor just finished up the last of the work on the 93LWB for me

Does anyone know if the canes/stakes in the sections are going to be widened this year? Some of them last fall seemed VERY tight. Could have been my poor driving, or Randy's REALLY wide stance, but I remember a lot of drivers hitting or just running over them altogether :rolleyes:

[jason]

They were awfully tight, but theoretically it's still fair as they're tight for everyone. I'd like to see two completely different classes: <=90 and >90. We could allow an extra shunt or two for 101+. Just a thought.

[galen211]

X2 on the over/under 90" classes.

[pushngo]

X2 on the over/under 90" classes.

<90" should have to go in reverse

[solihull109]

I have a question about the trials. I was only ever at the one in Sunbury, so this is new to me. Is there a stipulation about lockers(full time) and running the course? It would be just the rear, but I've heard some remarks in joking about a certain yellow 88 and lockers, and just want to make sure I can enter, thanks.

[galen211]

lockers are not to be used on the course. Not sure how that rule applies to a detroit though. But now that you have told us, we'll be looking for it.;)

[galen211]

<90" should have to go in reverse

Only if your truck is yellow or you run with no doors.

[KevinNY]

With the ARB's you can be sure they are not employed because of the telltale compressor hum and the pssst! when they are disengaged. What about traction control or limited slip diffs? You could also run an "Unlimited Class" with no wheelbase, locker, tire size restrictions.

[GadgetRick]

Bummer, can't make it. Heading out West with the wife to get some late-season skiing in.

[tikicar]

Hey guys, How far is this from York? Thanks, Scott

[87xj95disco]

you know me i will be there for the work days and the day of the
event. getting the itch to wheel anyway so this will be good for me.
lyle let me know when to be there for the work days will take off work
about 9 i will get there cya then.
PLEASE make sure we have enough spotter and marshels this year.

[galen211]

Hey guys, How far is this from York? Thanks, Scott

Mapquest says 1 hour, 10 minutes.

But I have driven it before and I would say more like 1-1/2.

[87xj95disco]

tikicar
im from columbia on prospect rd.what part of york are you coming from
i can get there in about an hour useing back roads that i know
if anyone wants to convoy up let me know we can some where in between
email or call me to set something up

email mikenroses@hotmail.com ( title rovers)
call 717 681 2588 leave message if not home and will post time and
where we are going to meet.
same with trevor if he want to meet with the group since he lives
25 min away from me.
anyone interested

[Rob P]

I'll be up to spectate, plan on convoying up with "87xj95disco," I would really like to ride with somebody through the trails or volunteer spotting duties. Any interest from anybody in trusting a complete stranger?

[jason]

You are more than welcome to hop in with me. I enjoy having a navigator. Besides, depending on how poorly I perform, you will most likely end up driving. Bonus!

[Rob P]

Gracias Jason. I'll look for you when I get up there on the 15th. I'll have camera and notepad along and I'm bringing light tools along for Justin (case) because you never know when you can be helpful.

[cshontz]

Is Robesonia spectator-friendly for non-participants?

[mlp141]

Is Robesonia spectator-friendly for non-participants?

Quite -- I've never driven in any of the Robesonia's that I've been to and have enjoyed each and every one.

[galen211]

I'll have camera and notepad along.....

Good, I'll expect a full story with pictures for the newsletter two weeks after the event....;)

[Rob P]

Good, I'll expect a full story with pictures for the newsletter two weeks after the event....;)

Do you want pictures in B/W or Color? Jpeg or BMP format?
Article in "Word" be OK or should I try to bootleg a copy of Quark so I can do the layout as well?

Is this the semi-bi-tri-almost-annual newsletter?

[jason]

Technically it's quarterly, but lets not split hairs.:D Galen is waiting on my slow ass to e-mail the current member list. You should get a shiny new one by Saturday.;)

[galen211]

Do you want pictures in B/W or Color? Jpeg or BMP format?
Article in "Word" be OK or should I try to bootleg a copy of Quark so I can do the layout as well?

Is this the semi-bi-tri-almost-annual newsletter?

Color jpegs with a word document. I don't use Quark, we're on to Indesign these days. Adobe bought Quark and Indesign is what's left. I like it better, much more user friendly.

[galen211]

Since it is a Sunday this year is there any interest in camping out Saturday night? Pre-Robesonia shop day or something to that effect?

[mlp141]

G -- I might be in. Doubt Alicia will b -- what about Jess?

[Rob P]

Since it is a Sunday this year is there any interest in camping out Saturday night? Pre-Robesonia shop day or something to that effect?

Even though the idea tickles me, I think I had better not tempt fate (or the S.O.) and just stick to the Sunday times.

[Joe]

I hope to attend but will only be a spotter/photographer this time...I can't afford another $1,000 in body damage like what happened the last time. Oh well, if I weren't so anal I could live with the dents!

[crazyfish]

You got it fixed? You had rubbed a tree somewhere? or did you hit a sill?

[Joe]

Trees, all trees. However, after getting the estimate to fix it, I was rear-ended at a stop light by a Toyota doing 40 MPH. The subsequent repairs were done courtesy of his insurance company (which included the tree damage). Seems like I forgot to tell the inspector about the trees.

[jason]

Seems like I forgot to tell the inspector about the trees.

Trees? What trees? I didn't see any trees. No trees here.;)

[Rob P]

It is in no way your fault that that redneck with the Toyota had trees strapped to the front of his vehicle.

[crazyfish]

Now thats funny.

[rvrsrvc]

How about a day trip to Rausch on Saturday, camp Sat night and the trials sunday?

[galen211]

Talked to Lyle this weekend and they are probably going to have the work weekend Saturday the 8th and Saturday the 14th.

Anyone that wants to come out of for the work day on the 14th is welcome to camp and if there are only a few Lyle said there camper is available, otherwise it's tents. Unless the boss says otherwise this is my plan as of right now.

[87xj95disco]

it the 7th not the 8th the 8th is easter right i will be there on the 14 not sure about the 7th.

[galen211]

it the 7th not the 8th the 8th is easter right i will be there on the 14 not sure about the 7th.

Sorry, it is the 7th.

[galen211]

Anybody else going to camp out Saturday night? The boss gave me the OK so I am in for camping.

[jason]

It is definitely a possibility. Depends on if I bring one or more kids.

[KevinNY]

I'll most likely be down the night before to camp.

[crazyfish]

I'm in for camping, Red can't make this one because of an art show. This will give me time to sneak some parts off Dave's 109.

[cshontz]

I don't have a Land Rover, but I would very much like to attend your activities as a spectator and/or socialite. I'd love to meet you folks, and see what you do. What is your policy on this? :)

[crazyfish]

We always need people to help and/or marshal. We'd be happy to have you show up, and you can always catch a ride with someone on the trails.

[sven]

Hmm if all goes well, I might be showing up the night before in my new ride :D

[GrFa]

Once again I hope my truck is put together by then but it probably won't be. :(

[tikicar]

I plan to be there on the 15th. Camping might be a possability, just depends on work on Saturday. I just picked up the new LRM. It has the fall article in it. Scott 97XD

[Randy]

We'll be there Sunday Morning!

[crazyfish]

Just got the Short Bus back from inspection. It's not going to robesonia, there are some very nice and serious cracks in the rear frame just above the spring hangers. Still plan on going Saturday afternoon.

[pushngo]

Just got the Short Bus back from inspection. It's not going to robesonia, there are some very nice and serious cracks in the rear frame just above the spring hangers. Still plan on going Saturday afternoon.

Sean

I am going up but may or may not be able to drive as I am bringing both girls Mabe we can alternate runs or something, if you promose not to roll my truck that is

[87xj95disco]

weather forcast for sunday the 15
rain and wind come prepared

[crazyfish]

Sean

I am going up but may or may not be able to drive as I am bringing both girls Mabe we can alternate runs or something, if you promose not to roll my truck that is
Thanks for the offer, let's see how the day plays out, always fun to watch everyone too. As for rolling.......

[tikicar]

Sorry Guys, I won't be able to make it. I was looking forwad to meeting you all. I help with a Hot Rod show in May. All proceeds go to Charity. We are having a show meeting Sunday that is a not miss kind of thing. Anyway maybe next time, Enjoy the rain and the mud. Funny our hot rod show is famous for mud. And yes the rods get out and play. Don't beleve me, check out www.jalopyshowdown.com
Later, Scott 97XD

[Disco96JSWB]

Hi,

I'd like to offer to pay a ROVERS member's entry fee on Sunday in return for 4 or 5 used Discovery Series I alloy wheel lug nuts.

We'll be in the green DI with the '4X4XFAR' license plate.

Sincerely,
Jeremy and Jake Bannister

[pushngo]

Thanks for the offer, let's see how the day plays out, always fun to watch everyone too. As for rolling.......

Soooooooooo you want to babysit full time?????????

[pushngo]

Hate to sound like a fair weather wheeler but, is this going rain or shine? It sounds like it will be pretty bad weather especially for this event which calls for being out of your truck quite a lot. I don't think we will get much of a turnout but ........ let me know.

[crazyfish]

event is on no matter the weather. Rain isn't supposed to hit till 1pm as of now anyway.

[derekdilks]

rain and wind will just add character to this event... as if the people going weren't enough...

[Rob P]

Can somebody anybody bring along a OBDII diagnostic scantool to Robesonia? I have a persistant yellow "check engine" light that I would like to erase.

[Joe]

The module for that is under the front passenger's seat. It is brown, just pull it out and leave it in your glove compartment like I did on my '95 LWB.

[rvrsrvc]

I think that's the red "Service Engine" light resolution, not the amber "check engine" lamp.

[rvrsrvc]

Randy's just trying to encourage a low turn out 'cause he wants to win that badly.

[rvrsrvc]

I'll bring my scan tool but we need 110v. And, I'm looking for lug nuts now.

[rvrsrvc]

Oh, and it's raining right now at my house.

[Lyle4LClover]

Robesonia update, raining here lightly, tomorrows forecast doesn't look good but there will be a break from 9 till about 1, enough time to run our 10 courses if all goes well. All sections and road signs up, course not as tight as last year due to pending rain, lets see if we can pull it off!
Lyle
P.S. Trevor, I still have your harness, found it on Friday, seems it never got to the post office, sorry about that. I'll have it for tomorrow.

[pushngo]

Randy's just trying to encourage a low turn out 'cause he wants to win that badly.

It's all yours guys. I am loaded and ready but just think it will be a nightmare with the girls. The forecast now shows 100% chance of heavy rain for every hour.

[pushngo]

Well??????????

Pics??????

[Rob P]

awesome time.......furnace pilot light re-lit......girlfriend very thankful for my early return........how was the afternoon fun runs?........thanks Jason for the passenger seat.

[Rob P]

Pictures from today, I apoligise for the quality. Used my old camera since it was raining.

Follow link for pictures: http://home.comcast.net/~Captincvmn/robesonia/

http://home.comcast.net/~Captincvmn/robesonia/photos/photo19.jpg

[Frank84]

Had a great time watching everyone slide around in the mud! Can't wait for the fall event - i certainly will have my truck ready by then.

[KevinNY]

I was not able to make it because of a lack of rear driveshaft and the storm. Hopefully mu prepaid entry can be applied to the Fall event.

[galen211]

Thanks to the McMullan's who are always the greatest hosts and thanks to Mike for helping out with set-up.

Turn out was a little low, didn't realize we were a fair weather club;) , 5 entries with a good showing of spectators. No damage and no stucks except Jaime trying to catch up to the group had something go bad in the front end.

Overall the trails were good and everyone had a good time.

Can't wait for the Fall!

[crazyfish]

and Galen forgot to mention he won. He even got a free D-ring! Lucky bastard.

[scatterling]

Great time yesterday!
Hey Sean, I owe you money or servitude or something - plastered everything in toothpaste this morning, grinned all the way to work :D

There is something magical about the smell of gear oil and mint!!! Thanks

[crazyfish]

I learned that toothpaste on the windows trick from Kirk on the way back from MAR. Sounds so completely stupid that I had to try it. 5 hours of driving with clear vision was very nice.

[crazyfish]

36 pictures from a slow camera posted - or maybe the Rovers were moving very very fast.....

http://gallery.roversclub.org/thumbnails.php?album=4

[pushngo]

Can't believe I missed seeing Jason actually driving his own Rover

[Rob P]

excellant pictures Mr. Fish

[Frank84]

Nice shots! Why does it never appear as tough in the pictures as it does when you're there?

[Rob P]

You lose all depth perception similar to looking through binoculars at a hillside. It appears flatish.

[Frank84]

You lose all depth perception similar to looking through binoculars at a hillside. It appears flatish.

Somebody needs to invent a 3D camera!

[ini88]

I learned that toothpaste on the windows trick from Kirk on the way back from MAR. Sounds so completely stupid that I had to try it. 5 hours of driving with clear vision was very nice.

haha, that sounds like what i do when i go scuba diving! put some toothpaste in my mask and rinse it out and i won't fog up when i dive for the whole day.

I need to try that on my rover now :)

[scatterling]

mmm....someone should bottle this "windowpaste" - we could make millions!!!!!! :D

[oscar]

Why does it never appear as tough in the pictures as it does when you're there?

For the same reason that big ocean waves look like a lily pond when you get home......

This looks like fun. I will have to participate soon, but I can tell I will need a dedicated tree-hugger....not anything that I try to keep looking nice. ;)

[derekdilks]

Had an awesome time, even though I came in dead last..... :mad: but hey I didn't get so much as a scratch the whole day which is really saying something for me :D Can't wait till fall.... Thanks everyone for making it a great event

what do you say to changing the rules for the canes? It stinks that you don't get credit for the ones after you've touched. Has anyone ever thought of just charging points only for the canes touched? lowest score would still win it. Just a thought.

[Frank84]

what do you say to changing the rules for the canes? It stinks that you don't get credit for the ones after you've touched. Has anyone ever thought of just charging points only for the canes touched? lowest score would still win it. Just a thought.

That sounds interesting to me. It would make people focus on driving the entire course, not just up till the first cane is hit then plowing over the rest. I'd be up for giving it a shot next time. One point per cane hit (which means that you could hit up to two canes per gate). You could also add one point each time you reverse instead of just getting the score of the last gate you went through.

[jason]

Sorry to take so long to respond. I've been bailing out a basement for the last 40 hours.:mad: Randy you were missed, and yes, this is the first Robesonia I participated in with my own truck, in 2 1/2 years. I had a great time, and my boy enjoyed it, too. Of course, I think it was just because he had Mike to play with. Rob, you make a great co-pilot, and I take full responsibility for hitting the tree.:D Fall Robesonia is 11/11/07, and I look forward to seeing more people turn out, not just the hard-core roversclub members!;)

[jason]

Pictures from today, I apoligise for the quality. Used my old camera since it was raining.

Follow link for pictures: http://home.comcast.net/~Captincvmn/robesonia/


Great pics Rob. Thanks!

[jason]

and Galen forgot to mention he won. He even got a free D-ring! Lucky bastard.

Speaking of lucky bastard's, seem's someone who didn't even drive walked away with a little cha-ching.:) Now you can afford a mountain-man inspection sticker.

[crazyfish]

Funny, I won the 50/50 for $50 and Neil won the $75 gift certificate and neither one of us drove. Maybe it's because we drive those sexy Series vehicles. Maybe it's cheaper if we don't drive..... lol

Oh, and my wife doesn't have to know :)

[solihull109]

Speaking of lucky bastard's, seem's someone who didn't even drive walked away with a little cha-ching.:) Now you can afford a mountain-man inspection sticker.
Galens' is free....he's not a flatlander..:D

[derekdilks]

That sounds interesting to me. It would make people focus on driving the entire course, not just up till the first cane is hit then plowing over the rest. I'd be up for giving it a shot next time. One point per cane hit (which means that you could hit up to two canes per gate). You could also add one point each time you reverse instead of just getting the score of the last gate you went through.

1 point per reverse, that's a good idea too.

[jason]

mmm....someone should bottle this "windowpaste" - we could make millions!!!!!! :D


Could one of you enlighten the rest of us?:confused: What type of paste, how is it applied, how does it work, does it control plaque?

[scatterling]

when I got to Robesonia on Sunday I told Sean that with rain and fog and my windows fogging up inside I was pretty much driving blind the whole way there. He told my to put toothpaste on the inside of the windows and it would stop the fogging problem - used white colgate on Monday morning and I was able to drive to work no problem. Usually if I breath too deep I can't see out!
If you're interested I might be able to sell you some for around $45 a tube - but only for a limited time :D
.. and yes it will control plaque

[scatterling]

Maybe it's because we drive those sexy Series vehicles.


Ohhh.....uhmmm thanks Sean, I'm sure your truck is very sexy tooo. - freak! :eek: lol

[Rob P]

Two things:

1. Did you all do any "for fun" wheeling in the afternoon while I was lighting my furnace at home?

2. I need to get ahold of Lyle- He offered to fix my troublesome P1317 Rough Road bullcrap dash light but I had to leave. Hey Lyle, do you read posts on a regular basis? Trevor can you preform this fix as well?

[Lyle4LClover]

Hey Rob, I have a scan tool from Auto Zone, reads and resets any OBD II check engine light. I can tell you what it is, and I might be able to give you some advice and even fix it, but depending on what it is, you may very well end up in Trevors garage!
Lyle
P.S. mine has been on for three years, it still runs......... just reset it for PA inspection only.

[KevinNY]

when I got to Robesonia on Sunday I told Sean that with rain and fog and my windows fogging up inside I was pretty much driving blind the whole way there. He told my to put toothpaste on the inside of the windows and it would stop the fogging problem - used white colgate on Monday morning and I was able to drive to work no problem. Usually if I breath too deep I can't see out!
If you're interested I might be able to sell you some for around $45 a tube - but only for a limited time :D
.. and yes it will control plaque


Erstwhile series fanatic Bruce Fowler taught me the key to keeping a soft topped series windshield clear in the rain.

[scatterling]

But how will a squeegee control plaque????? :confused:

[KevinNY]

:p I suppose it might be easier to squegee your teeth than brush with a windscreen?

[Rob P]

Hey Rob, I have a scan tool from Auto Zone, reads and resets any OBD II check engine light. I can tell you what it is, and I might be able to give you some advice and even fix it, but depending on what it is, you may very well end up in Trevors garage!
Lyle
P.S. mine has been on for three years, it still runs......... just reset it for PA inspection only.

I had spoke to you about this code on Sunday and you had said about plugging some chip in and "flashing" the computer. Said the "rough road ABS code stays in ECU for years. I'd love to spend 5 minutes with your code scanner in a well lit room.

[Lyle4LClover]

Rob, you know where I am, lets set up a shop day. I'll help you with codes and you can help me with my list of projects. What area do you live in? Near here?
Lyle

[scatterling]

Don't know if this will work but here goes, link to Evan making friends with a tree
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7awCCoYt688

[oscar]

Video not available.....did I ever tell you Evan has friends in high places?

[crazyfish]

worked for me!

[Frank84]

That's a great clip - I think that was the highlight of the day for me.

[oscar]

Got it this time..... Looked pretty dead to me. I think Evan was harvesting it.

[flippedrover]

What did that poor dead tree do to Even to deserve getting run over??? Someday I'll make it to the trials.

[Rob P]

Rob, you know where I am, lets set up a shop day. I'll help you with codes and you can help me with my list of projects. What area do you live in? Near here?
Lyle

Hey Lyle, I sent you a PM like last week. Email me fella Captincvmn@verizon.net, we'll get together sometime and do project work.

[Tom109]

what do you say to changing the rules for the canes? It stinks that you don't get credit for the ones after you've touched. Has anyone ever thought of just charging points only for the canes touched? lowest score would still win it. Just a thought.

In Bicycle Trials, you accumulate points as you make them, up to the maximum (5 points) per section. For example, you would sucessively score 1 - 2 - 3 points, respectively, for the 1st, 2nd and 3rd touch. The 4th touch was free, meaning you still retained a score of "3". Completely failing the section, or refusal to ride it resulted in a "5", so those that took the chance could be rewarded with a "3" even with 4 touches. This does open the possibility for strategy, as you can selectively use a touch to out maneuver the competition.

Lots of other differences that could be incorporated as well. I think it would definitely spice things up...

Oh, about the toothpaste - you're only supposed to use the "gel" type for anti-fog duty. Do not use the old standby "white" toothpaste!!!

Regards,

Tom P.

[Rob P]

trouble I had with the gel was everything was blue then